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Friday, September 12, 2008
The last two stories we read dealt with the subject of death. Explain how the stories were different in their views of death. Did you prefer one story over the other?
The two stories were different in the views of death because one was a little more serious than the other. The Interlopers was about men who have fought their whole lives and they planned on ending it by ending one of their lives. This was more serious because the writer didn't put humor into the men fighting to the death. I didn't find as much interest in this selection because it was too serious. On the other hand, I liked Mark Twain's 'The Invalid's Story' I found it too be amusing. I liked that it lightened the mood of the man's friend passing. It was sad that the friend died but it was entertaining that they thought the body was decaying and he smelled like Limburger cheese. It was even funnier when he found out his friend wasn't the one the smelled and he said it made him old and unhealthy.
So I guess I'd say I liked 'The Invalid's Story' more than 'The Interlopers.'
The main differences between the Interlopers and The Invalid's Story, in regard to their views of death, were the level each dealt with the topic, and the tone set by each story when talking about it.
The Interlopers dealt with death in only a slight manner. The only mentions of the subject were in the beginning, when talking about the feud, and at the end when the two men saw the wolves. In contrast, however, The Invalid's Story was entirely about a corpse, which definitely represents death.
As far as the tone of the stories when dealing with death, The Interlopers had a suspenseful outlook on its portrayal, where The Invalid's Story, has a humorous element to it.
I preferred The Interlopers over The Invalid's Story because I have never been a fan of Mark Twain and I find his stories particularly laborious to read. I don't enjoy untangling all of the prose and satire of the times that he incorporates into his stories. His writing style just doesn't flow for me. The Interlopers was written in a more enjoyable style for me so I liked it better.
The Interlopers and The Invalids Story are different in there views on death because the the interlopers never really says the guys die in it it just suggests that they do because they are trapped and see wolves. While in The Invalids Story the entire story was about them thinking that there was a corpse in the coffin when all it was was there imagination think the coffin was starting to smell more and more when it was really the Limburger cheese some but on it. I would have to say that I like The Invalids Story because I love Mark Twain's stories they are funny and really fun to read. Also his story made me think more than The Interlopers did.
The Interlopers and The Invalid's Story both had very different views of death. For instance The Interlopers do not actually tell you that they die at the end they just tell you about the wolves and from that you have to just guess that they die from the wolves. Also, in The Interlopers it is in a way very enlightening for both people because for their whole lives they had hated each other, but then after they got to spend some time together (even though it was probably very uncomfortable) they learned that they really did not have to hate each other. In the Invalid's Story it was different. From the begining of the story it was talking about the death of his friend, unlike in the Interlopers where there, for the most part, was no talk of death. Also, in The Invalid's Story they were surrounded by death by being stuck with the "body" of his friend and the awful smell that was spreading throughout the train the whole time. Overall my favorite was The Interlopers because it shows that even though you have learned to hate someone your whole life you can always turn that around and become friends if you really want to.
Although the past two stories we have read both have to do with death, they don't seem very similar to me. Saki's 'The Interlopers' didn't have the element of humor that Mark Twain's 'The Invalid's Story' posessed. In addition 'The Invalid's Story' creates a light-hearted mood, differing greatly from the serious mood of the Interlopers. In the 'Interlopers', you felt happy at first as the long term enemies began to resolve their conflicts, but the story took an unexpected twist when you saw that they were about to be eaten by wolves. 'The Invalid's Story', on the other hand started out on a sad note with the news of the man's friend's death, but took a humorous turn as he began to smell the stench of the dead body.
I prefered 'The Invalid's Story' over 'The Interlopers' because it was easier to understand and the humor made it more enjoyable
The two stories differed in the views of death in many ways. I thought ,the story 'The Interlopers' had a much more serious tone. On the other hand, 'The invalid's story' was slightly more enjoyable to read, not only because of the humor present but also due to the language Mark Twain used. However, at times it took a bit of effort to decipher what his point was. In comparison the plots of the stories where very different. In my opinion, the turning point in "the interlopers' wasn't till the very end. Compared to 'the invalid's story' where the plot was very evident. That was how I thought the two stories differed.
I think somewhat of the likeness to the view of death in both stories much like Corinn does. 'The Interlopers' subtle theme of death, and 'The Invalid's Story' blatant nod to death. 'The Interlopers' talks about men hunting, but does not flatout have people dying or dead all over the snow. No, they are just hunting... until the end when the hunters become prey to the wolves.
Much like Corinn said, 'The Invalid's Story' throws death right up in your face, with the smell of rotten cheese to boot!
However, our similarities in thinking end there. I think that both the stories also had a more subtle point to make. In both stories, two men come toghether in the most unlikely of circumstances, and they find themselves at odds. They work together, though to no avail, and end up friends.
Granted, 'The Interlopers' nemeses know each other, but they don't really know each other, haven't spent time together. But the two gentleman in 'The Invalid's Story' were complete strangers... with no knowledge of cheese.
My favorite of the two stories would be 'The Invalid's Story' because I found the authors descriptions of the antics the two men displayed trying to escape the stench of a "dead man".
I can see why corinn doesn't like 'The Invalid's Story" because of the confusing wording of the time the story was written. I challenge her to read Shakespear's works! Brilliant!
The stories were different with the subject of death by "The Invalids" being a humorous thought of death and "The Interlopers" being ironic death. "The Invalids" was a comical story about two guys who thought the dead body was rotting, but actually was some stinky cheese. They mentally terrified themselves into thinking that the coffin was full of a dead body that stunk really bad. It was very humorous when they tried to cover the smell, but it only made it worse and scared them into getting fevers. However, with "The Interlopers" it had a more serious but ironic tone. That was about two more guys who has had a family fued (no not the game) for a very long time, and when death slaps them in the head they tried to resolve their issues before it's too late. Funny thing is is that when they agree on to dissolve their problems and try to save eachother a pack of wolves just happens to find them helpless. I perferred "The Interlopers" over "The Invalids" because I love that little twist in the end that kept me on my toes. It was very nice to see two men work out family predicaments and try to save eachother for honor. But there's something about the ironic ending that makes me laugh and think "wow, I wish they would've straightend things out sooner"! They probably would've never had that confrontation if they had made up before. ^*Alex Meyer*^
These two stories have completely different views of death.
The Interlopers is about two men that plan to end eachother's lives, but as the story nears the end they settle a life long dispute. The story hits a turning point in the end when both men are assumed to die. This story had a more serious tone, and a tragic view of death.
While The Invalid's Story was about two men who convince themselves that the corpse of a friend is producing a horrible smell, when it is really limburger cheese. This story had a more humorous and ironic view of something already dead.
So both stories had similar topics but very different views. I personally preferred reading the Invalid's Story because i thought it to be more enjoyable to read and it wasn't disappointing at the end like the Interlopers.
The two stories had different views on death. The Interlopers was about two men in a long-term fight, but they going to end up in death at the end by wolves. This story had less humor and was more serious. The Invalid's Story is about a man taking his "best friend" to Wisconsin, but it was a gun box with the smell of stinky cheese. It talked about a death that had already happened, and this story was in a humorous mood. I would have to say I liked The Interlopers because it had a good ending and it kept me reading. I thought that The Invalid's Story was more of a point-less story.
The Interlopers took more of a serious approach to the fact of death. In the beginning, the two men thought that the other was on his own land, and were planning on, well, making the other push up daisies. But then the tree collapsed on them. And the two started fighting about who's posse would show up first and kill the other. But then as they stared death in its cold, unforgiving eyes, they realized that the reason for the feuding of the families was because of an event of what happened generations ago. They realized that that was what their ancestors believed, and so they didn't have to believe it also. So they decided to become friends. Whereas, The Invalid's Story had a more humorous approach to the idea of death. The main character was taking his friend home to his parents, and both himself and the man on the train thought that his friend had an unbearable stench. And they spent the entire story trying to figure out a way to mask the all too odorific (I don't care if it isn't a word or not) corpse. I preferred The Interlopers because it showed you that even the bitterest of enemies can become the best of friends when they suffer through something together. In this case, a very, near death experience. =) As always this is Chester Snapdragonmcfenstercoff reporting live. (That is my pen name)
The main difference in the views of death expressed in The Interlopers and The Invalid's Story are that in The Interlopers, the characters are trying to settle a score that has been going on for generations, whereas The Invalid's Story tries to take a humorous approach about the death of a man's friend. The Interlopers was a far more serious story than Mark Twain's piece of writing.
I personally liked The Invalid's Story more than The Interlopers because it is more humorous and it, in my opinion, is a more entertaining piece of literature.
The two stories were different in there views of death because one was ironic while the other was kind of a shoot to kill theme......serious as we say nowadays. In The Interlopers 2 men and their respective groups battle for the right to hunt on each others land. It is kind of funny (i dont know why i find this funny) when they realize that it is wolves responding to their help cries because they were so close to resolving the problem and now they have to die. I guess you cant always get what you want. In the other story, The Invalid's Story, was really confusing in my opinion. For example when explaining this incredibly wierd/boring expierience that Mark Twain encounters, he tells the story like he was doing the actions right then and there. But wait this is the part that really trips me up. At the end he states "i am now on my way home to die". Ok i dont understand was he in his coffin being sent home to be buried or was he just going home with a very bad cold. In whatever the case i am going to have to say that i liked The Interlopers more than The Invalid's Story. Mainly just because i understood The Interlopers but also because of the irony and message of the story. Wat it dooooooooooooo.
The last two stories we read dealt with death in different ways. One story dealt with it in a funny, humorous way, while the other dealt with it in a serious way.
The Interlopers was the story that dealt with death in the serious way with the two men meeting in the woods to kill each other but instead get trapped under a tree. This story was also my favorite.
The Invalid's Story was the one that dealt with death in a humorous way. The author made death funny in an old fashioned kind of way by having his characters think that the body was smelling really bad. In reality the casket was just guns and the smell was cheese.
I liked The Interlopers better because The Invalid's Story wasn't funny to me. It might of been funny in the early 1900's but now a days it isn't very funny. Also, I liked The Interlopers better because I enjoyed the ending.
There are many differences between "The Interlopers" and "The Invalid's Story", and in anent to death, one is satirical, and one is sober-sided.
"The Interlopers" was very serious in it’s telling of the story where two men whose families have fought for as long as anyone can remember are enveloped in a situation that cannot be altered. In becoming friends, they realize that it is in both of their best interests, and instead of killing all of the time; they and their people could both prosper. Due to the ironic twist at the end of the story, we can infer that their own prey killed both men.
"The Invalid's Story", on the other hand, deals with death in a comical way. A man telling the story of how his goal was to take his friend's dead body back to his family, but instead got a box of guns and some stinky cheese, is a more capricious way to deal with death, especially the renderings of the way they tried to mask the "rotting corpse's" malodorous fragrance.
"The Interlopers" differed from "The Invalid's Story" by means of when they introduced death. While reading "The Interlopers", death was referred to as one person killing the other, and in the end, both presumably died. However, in "The Invalid's Story" death was the subject at the incipient. It dealt with death in a whimsical way that engaged the reader's in the character's stupidity, while "The Interlopers" never really resolved the death.
I preferred to read "The Invalid's Story" because it was captivating and humorous to the readers, as opposed to the dull beginning to "The Interlopers", where I couldn't connect to the story, and it was quite arduous to follow.
Actually, i wouldn't really know about the interlopers since i completey forgot to read it but i really liked Mark Twain's The Invalid's Story it was hilarious n kinda sad that he even admitted to his frend smelling terrible but wut wood u expect from someone's whos dead i mean it's not like their gonna woalk right out of the coffin n take a shower.
The two stories,The Interlopers and The Invalid's Story,are different in their veiws of death because obviously the approach on the matter is on two very opposite takes. In the story, The Interlopers, the characters WANT death for their enemy. The seriousness and the death desired mood of the story is apparent within a sentence in the very first paragraph, "Ulrich von Gradwitz patrolled the dark forest in quest of a human enemy." Either men want no more than the others life to be gone and to never have to see their face again. On the exact oppostie hand,The Invalid's Story takes a different approach on the matter of death with a little bit of chaos and alot ill humor. As you know the man has confused the box of his friends with a box of rifel but continues the train ride with a quite unbearable stench,which happens to be cheese. So, the whole train ride, the expressman is making jokes about the stench of the "man",even though his friend is still quite hurt over his death. Personally,I perfer the Invalid's Story over The Interlopers.I perfer this one because it did get quite a laugh out of me just because the expressman was just making odd,yet humorous comments about this mans dead friend,as if he didnt just lose someone he loved.Also,I peerfer to lighten the dark subject of death.
The Interlopers and The Invalid's Story were totally different in their views of death because of the way that each author portrayed the way that each character was feeling about their death or the death of someone they were close to. In The Interlopers, the setting was much more serious because they had been in this life long fight about a piece of land that had been the cause of conflict between their two families for generations, and they were up-holding what they believed was the right thing to do in their situation. In the Invalids story, it is a much more lighter tone, with the two main characters just kind of joking about the fact that his dead friend stinks so bad! As for my favorite of the two stories, I would say that I like The Interlopers more than The Invalids. I like this story more because The Invalids I think was a little too humorous in its' attempt to make the situation of the main character a little too funny.
"The Interlopers" and "The Invalid's Story" had nearly opposite views of death.
In "The Interlopers" It starts off with guys with ridiculously long and involved names who hate each other so much that they decide to end things by shooting each other. Then a tree falls on them and they randomly decide that it wasn't really worth despising each other, so they would just be friends. Then the author hinted that they got eaten by wolves at the end, so they died anyway, therefor invalidating any point this story might have had (sorry to those who enjoyed this tale).
In "The Invalid's Story" a guy has to deliver what he thinks is his old chum's dead body to his grieving family over in Wisconsin (or somewhere similar). He inadvertently takes some stinky cheese instead. This story is more about one's imagination instead of death. Death just happened to be the thought two men chose to run away with.
In case you don't already know,I infinatley preferred "The Invalid's Story" to "The Interlopers". "The Invalid's Story" kept me entertained and made light of something generally considered deep and horrible. You might call that morbid, I found it funny. I found reading "The Interlopers" a needlessly long and drawling experience similar to taking one of those SRI tests designed to determine your ability to decipher passages rendered meaningless by strange and obscure word choices. Although, I must admit I am partial to any story that can make me laugh.
I think i enjoyed "The Invalid's Story" better. The difference between the two were that "The Interlopers" were more of an ironic death than the other story, and more serious.
I think that "The Invalid's Story" had better characters, especially the man sitting next to the main character. I'm sure that the main character was ready to blow up on him. I know I would. I didn't like the chatacters in the other story, because I didn't really understand who they were, much less pronounce their names.
Lastly, I generally found "The Invalid's Story" more funny. Humor is a big part of a good book in my opinion.
Mrs. Hennessy, do you think if we all just kept posting every thought that came to mind as we sat at the computer, we would make the top ten blog spot?
-I feel obligated to say stuff about the stories so I haven't completely wasted everyone's time, so here it is:
I like that you knew all the time that it was the cheese stinking up the place in "The Invalid's Story" even though the characters didn't.
In case you're actually reading this, I was wondering...
Why on earth is "The Invalid's Story" titled that? Is it because the dead body wasn't really what they thought it was? But the story wasn't really all about the cheese, it was about the guy's imagination, so why would Mark Twain name it that?
Corinn, if you see this you must join the quest to use the word "obsequious" in a normal conversation. If you don't already know, it means "fawning". Frankly, if you can use the word "laboriously" I bet you can use this word too.
Next time theirs a post we should all post twenty times with book related posts and see if we can make the top ten. No one can fault us with doing extra homework
The two stories that we read were different from each other because one of them started with somebody dead and the other ends with someone dead. In The Interlopers Ulrich von Gradwitz and Georg Znaeym are both out to kill each other. They are trying to kill each other because the two families have a history of hatred. The reason that they are mad at each other this time is because Georg was caught potching on Ulrichs land. When the two men were out in the woods they came face to face with each other but neither one shot or spoke to the other. Before either one said anything the tree that they were standing under fell on top of them. While the men lay under the tree they began to talk to each other. After awhile of talking to each other and laying under the tree the two thought it would be very cool if they could become friends. Therefore the two agreed to be friends but their friendship was short-lived due to the fact that what they thought were men coming to help them was a pack of wolves instead. In the story The Invalids Story John B. Hacketts friend had died in Clevland Ohio and he got directions to take him to Wisconsin. What he did not know was that when he got on the train he had the wrong box so instead of a coffin he had a box of guns instead.Also when the box was boarded a piece of Limburger cheese was layed on top of it. Therefore the whole way to Wisconsin he had a horrible smell and tried many different ways to try to get rid of the smell. He got so desperate that he resorted to burning toxic things which not only hurt him but made the smell even worse than it already was.In the end of the story he found out that that train ride would be his last train ride and that he was going to die.So I guess that I liked The Interlopers better than The Invalids Story.
The two different death stories were the Invalids story which was a humors way of talking death and not sadly and the Interlopers which was a story of a serious feud and was much more depressing. These two ways differ magnanimously in how they take death. If I were to choose the one I liked the best it would be the invalid’s story because of its humorous way.
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The two stories were different in the views of death because one was a little more serious than the other. The Interlopers was about men who have fought their whole lives and they planned on ending it by ending one of their lives. This was more serious because the writer didn't put humor into the men fighting to the death. I didn't find as much interest in this selection because it was too serious. On the other hand, I liked Mark Twain's 'The Invalid's Story' I found it too be amusing. I liked that it lightened the mood of the man's friend passing. It was sad that the friend died but it was entertaining that they thought the body was decaying and he smelled like Limburger cheese. It was even funnier when he found out his friend wasn't the one the smelled and he said it made him old and unhealthy.
So I guess I'd say I liked 'The Invalid's Story' more than 'The Interlopers.'
Paige Porter
The main differences between the Interlopers and The Invalid's Story, in regard to their views of death, were the level each dealt with the topic, and the tone set by each story when talking about it.
The Interlopers dealt with death in only a slight manner. The only mentions of the subject were in the beginning, when talking about the feud, and at the end when the two men saw the wolves. In contrast, however, The Invalid's Story was entirely about a corpse, which definitely represents death.
As far as the tone of the stories when dealing with death, The Interlopers had a suspenseful outlook on its portrayal, where The Invalid's Story, has a humorous element to it.
I preferred The Interlopers over The Invalid's Story because I have never been a fan of Mark Twain and I find his stories particularly laborious to read. I don't enjoy untangling all of the prose and satire of the times that he incorporates into his stories. His writing style just doesn't flow for me. The Interlopers was written in a more enjoyable style for me so I liked it better.
~Corinn~
The Interlopers and The Invalids Story are different in there views on death because the the interlopers never really says the guys die in it it just suggests that they do because they are trapped and see wolves. While in The Invalids Story the entire story was about them thinking that there was a corpse in the coffin when all it was was there imagination think the coffin was starting to smell more and more when it was really the Limburger cheese some but on it. I would have to say that I like The Invalids Story because I love Mark Twain's stories they are funny and really fun to read. Also his story made me think more than The Interlopers did.
**Christine**
The Interlopers and The Invalid's Story both had very different views of death. For instance The Interlopers do not actually tell you that they die at the end they just tell you about the wolves and from that you have to just guess that they die from the wolves. Also, in The Interlopers it is in a way very enlightening for both people because for their whole lives they had hated each other, but then after they got to spend some time together (even though it was probably very uncomfortable) they learned that they really did not have to hate each other.
In the Invalid's Story it was different. From the begining of the story it was talking about the death of his friend, unlike in the Interlopers where there, for the most part, was no talk of death. Also, in The Invalid's Story they were surrounded by death by being stuck with the "body" of his friend and the awful smell that was spreading throughout the train the whole time.
Overall my favorite was The Interlopers because it shows that even though you have learned to hate someone your whole life you can always turn that around and become friends if you really want to.
~*Kasey Smith*~
Although the past two stories we have read both have to do with death, they don't seem very similar to me. Saki's 'The Interlopers' didn't have the element of humor that Mark Twain's 'The Invalid's Story' posessed. In addition 'The Invalid's Story' creates a light-hearted mood, differing greatly from the serious mood of the Interlopers. In the 'Interlopers', you felt happy at first as the long term enemies began to resolve their conflicts, but the story took an unexpected twist when you saw that they were about to be eaten by wolves. 'The Invalid's Story', on the other hand started out on a sad note with the news of the man's friend's death, but took a humorous turn as he began to smell the stench of the dead body.
I prefered 'The Invalid's Story' over 'The Interlopers' because it was easier to understand and the humor made it more enjoyable
The two stories differed in the views of death in many ways. I thought ,the story 'The Interlopers' had a much more serious tone. On the other hand, 'The invalid's story' was slightly more enjoyable to read, not only because of the humor present but also due to the language Mark Twain used. However, at times it took a bit of effort to decipher what his point was.
In comparison the plots of the stories where very different. In my opinion, the turning point in "the interlopers' wasn't till the very end. Compared to 'the invalid's story' where the plot was very evident. That was how I thought the two stories differed.
-T.D
I think somewhat of the likeness to the view of death in both stories much like Corinn does. 'The Interlopers' subtle theme of death, and 'The Invalid's Story' blatant nod to death. 'The Interlopers' talks about men hunting, but does not flatout have people dying or dead all over the snow. No, they are just hunting... until the end when the hunters become prey to the wolves.
Much like Corinn said, 'The Invalid's Story' throws death right up in your face, with the smell of rotten cheese to boot!
However, our similarities in thinking end there. I think that both the stories also had a more subtle point to make. In both stories, two men come toghether in the most unlikely of circumstances, and they find themselves at odds. They work together, though to no avail, and end up friends.
Granted, 'The Interlopers' nemeses know each other, but they don't really know each other, haven't spent time together. But the two gentleman in 'The Invalid's Story' were complete strangers... with no knowledge of cheese.
My favorite of the two stories would be 'The Invalid's Story' because I found the authors descriptions of the antics the two men displayed trying to escape the stench of a "dead man".
I can see why corinn doesn't like 'The Invalid's Story" because of the confusing wording of the time the story was written. I challenge her to read Shakespear's works! Brilliant!
-Jake- x^(
The stories were different with the subject of death by "The Invalids" being a humorous thought of death and "The Interlopers" being ironic death.
"The Invalids" was a comical story about two guys who thought the dead body was rotting, but actually was some stinky cheese. They mentally terrified themselves into thinking that the coffin was full of a dead body that stunk really bad. It was very humorous when they tried to cover the smell, but it only made it worse and scared them into getting fevers.
However, with "The Interlopers" it had a more serious but ironic tone. That was about two more guys who has had a family fued (no not the game) for a very long time, and when death slaps them in the head they tried to resolve their issues before it's too late. Funny thing is is that when they agree on to dissolve their problems and try to save eachother a pack of wolves just happens to find them helpless.
I perferred "The Interlopers" over "The Invalids" because I love that little twist in the end that kept me on my toes. It was very nice to see two men work out family predicaments and try to save eachother for honor. But there's something about the ironic ending that makes me laugh and think "wow, I wish they would've straightend things out sooner"! They probably would've never had that confrontation if they had made up before.
^*Alex Meyer*^
These two stories have completely different views of death.
The Interlopers is about two men that plan to end eachother's lives, but as the story nears the end they settle a life long dispute. The story hits a turning point in the end when both men are assumed to die. This story had a more serious tone, and a tragic view of death.
While The Invalid's Story was about two men who convince themselves that the corpse of a friend is producing a horrible smell, when it is really limburger cheese. This story had a more humorous and ironic view of something already dead.
So both stories had similar topics but very different views. I personally preferred reading the Invalid's Story because i thought it to be more enjoyable to read and it wasn't disappointing at the end like the Interlopers.
The two stories had different views on death. The Interlopers was about two men in a long-term fight, but they going to end up in death at the end by wolves. This story had less humor and was more serious. The Invalid's Story is about a man taking his "best friend" to Wisconsin, but it was a gun box with the smell of stinky cheese. It talked about a death that had already happened, and this story was in a humorous mood.
I would have to say I liked The Interlopers because it had a good ending and it kept me reading. I thought that The Invalid's Story was more of a point-less story.
The Interlopers took more of a serious approach to the fact of death. In the beginning, the two men thought that the other was on his own land, and were planning on, well, making the other push up daisies. But then the tree collapsed on them. And the two started fighting about who's posse would show up first and kill the other. But then as they stared death in its cold, unforgiving eyes, they realized that the reason for the feuding of the families was because of an event of what happened generations ago. They realized that that was what their ancestors believed, and so they didn't have to believe it also. So they decided to become friends. Whereas, The Invalid's Story had a more humorous approach to the idea of death. The main character was taking his friend home to his parents, and both himself and the man on the train thought that his friend had an unbearable stench. And they spent the entire story trying to figure out a way to mask the all too odorific (I don't care if it isn't a word or not) corpse. I preferred The Interlopers because it showed you that even the bitterest of enemies can become the best of friends when they suffer through something together. In this case, a very, near death experience. =) As always this is Chester Snapdragonmcfenstercoff reporting live. (That is my pen name)
The main difference in the views of death expressed in The Interlopers and The Invalid's Story are that in The Interlopers, the characters are trying to settle a score that has been going on for generations, whereas The Invalid's Story tries to take a humorous approach about the death of a man's friend. The Interlopers was a far more serious story than Mark Twain's piece of writing.
I personally liked The Invalid's Story more than The Interlopers because it is more humorous and it, in my opinion, is a more entertaining piece of literature.
The two stories were different in there views of death because one was ironic while the other was kind of a shoot to kill theme......serious as we say nowadays. In The Interlopers 2 men and their respective groups battle for the right to hunt on each others land. It is kind of funny (i dont know why i find this funny) when they realize that it is wolves responding to their help cries because they were so close to resolving the problem and now they have to die. I guess you cant always get what you want. In the other story, The Invalid's Story, was really confusing in my opinion. For example when explaining this incredibly wierd/boring expierience that Mark Twain encounters, he tells the story like he was doing the actions right then and there. But wait this is the part that really trips me up. At the end he states "i am now on my way home to die". Ok i dont understand was he in his coffin being sent home to be buried or was he just going home with a very bad cold. In whatever the case i am going to have to say that i liked The Interlopers more than The Invalid's Story. Mainly just because i understood The Interlopers but also because of the irony and message of the story. Wat it dooooooooooooo.
and jacob why would we read shakespeare?!?!??!?!?!?? C'mon......
The last two stories we read dealt with death in different ways. One story dealt with it in a funny, humorous way, while the other dealt with it in a serious way.
The Interlopers was the story that dealt with death in the serious way with the two men meeting in the woods to kill each other but instead get trapped under a tree. This story was also my favorite.
The Invalid's Story was the one that dealt with death in a humorous way. The author made death funny in an old fashioned kind of way by having his characters think that the body was smelling really bad. In reality the casket was just guns and the smell was cheese.
I liked The Interlopers better because The Invalid's Story wasn't funny to me. It might of been funny in the early 1900's but now a days it isn't very funny. Also, I liked The Interlopers better because I enjoyed the ending.
Sammy
There are many differences between "The Interlopers" and "The Invalid's Story", and in anent to death, one is satirical, and one is sober-sided.
"The Interlopers" was very serious in it’s telling of the story where two men whose families have fought for as long as anyone can remember are enveloped in a situation that cannot be altered. In becoming friends, they realize that it is in both of their best interests, and instead of killing all of the time; they and their people could both prosper. Due to the ironic twist at the end of the story, we can infer that their own prey killed both men.
"The Invalid's Story", on the other hand, deals with death in a comical way. A man telling the story of how his goal was to take his friend's dead body back to his family, but instead got a box of guns and some stinky cheese, is a more capricious way to deal with death, especially the renderings of the way they tried to mask the "rotting corpse's" malodorous fragrance.
"The Interlopers" differed from "The Invalid's Story" by means of when they introduced death. While reading "The Interlopers", death was referred to as one person killing the other, and in the end, both presumably died. However, in "The Invalid's Story" death was the subject at the incipient. It dealt with death in a whimsical way that engaged the reader's in the character's stupidity, while "The Interlopers" never really resolved the death.
I preferred to read "The Invalid's Story" because it was captivating and humorous to the readers, as opposed to the dull beginning to "The Interlopers", where I couldn't connect to the story, and it was quite arduous to follow.
Kati
Actually, i wouldn't really know about the interlopers since i completey forgot to read it but i really liked Mark Twain's The Invalid's Story it was hilarious n kinda sad that he even admitted to his frend smelling terrible but wut wood u expect from someone's whos dead i mean it's not like their gonna woalk right out of the coffin n take a shower.
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The two stories,The Interlopers and The Invalid's Story,are different in their veiws of death because obviously the approach on the matter is on two very opposite takes. In the story, The Interlopers, the characters WANT death for their enemy. The seriousness and the death desired mood of the story is apparent within a sentence in the very first paragraph, "Ulrich von Gradwitz patrolled the dark forest in quest of a human enemy." Either men want no more than the others life to be gone and to never have to see their face again.
On the exact oppostie hand,The Invalid's Story takes a different approach on the matter of death with a little bit of chaos and alot ill humor. As you know the man has confused the box of his friends with a box of rifel but continues the train ride with a quite unbearable stench,which happens to be cheese. So, the whole train ride, the expressman is making jokes about the stench of the "man",even though his friend is still quite hurt over his death.
Personally,I perfer the Invalid's Story over The Interlopers.I perfer this one because it did get quite a laugh out of me just because the expressman was just making odd,yet humorous comments about this mans dead friend,as if he didnt just lose someone he loved.Also,I peerfer to lighten the dark subject of death.
The Interlopers and The Invalid's Story were totally different in their views of death because of the way that each author portrayed the way that each character was feeling about their death or the death of someone they were close to. In The Interlopers, the setting was much more serious because they had been in this life long fight about a piece of land that had been the cause of conflict between their two families for generations, and they were up-holding what they believed was the right thing to do in their situation. In the Invalids story, it is a much more lighter tone, with the two main characters just kind of joking about the fact that his dead friend stinks so bad! As for my favorite of the two stories, I would say that I like The Interlopers more than The Invalids. I like this story more because The Invalids I think was a little too humorous in its' attempt to make the situation of the main character a little too funny.
*Julianne*
"The Interlopers" and "The Invalid's Story" had nearly opposite views of death.
In "The Interlopers" It starts off with guys with ridiculously long and involved names who hate each other so much that they decide to end things by shooting each other. Then a tree falls on them and they randomly decide that it wasn't really worth despising each other, so they would just be friends. Then the author hinted that they got eaten by wolves at the end, so they died anyway, therefor invalidating any point this story might have had (sorry to those who enjoyed this tale).
In "The Invalid's Story" a guy has to deliver what he thinks is his old chum's dead body to his grieving family over in Wisconsin (or somewhere similar). He inadvertently takes some stinky cheese instead. This story is more about one's imagination instead of death. Death just happened to be the thought two men chose to run away with.
In case you don't already know,I infinatley preferred "The Invalid's Story" to "The Interlopers". "The Invalid's Story" kept me entertained and made light of something generally considered deep and horrible. You might call that morbid, I found it funny. I found reading "The Interlopers" a needlessly long and drawling experience similar to taking one of those SRI tests designed to determine your ability to decipher passages rendered meaningless by strange and obscure word choices. Although, I must admit I am partial to any story that can make me laugh.
Kati, "malodorous" is an awesome word. You and Corinn should have some kind of "Word off" or something.
~please forgive me for the unbearable geekiness of the idea of a "word off".
I think i enjoyed "The Invalid's Story" better. The difference between the two were that "The Interlopers" were more of an ironic death than the other story, and more serious.
I think that "The Invalid's Story" had better characters, especially the man sitting next to the main character. I'm sure that the main character was ready to blow up on him. I know I would. I didn't like the chatacters in the other story, because I didn't really understand who they were, much less pronounce their names.
Lastly, I generally found "The Invalid's Story" more funny. Humor is a big part of a good book in my opinion.
And i agree with you Mary Kate. They should. Though I think Corinn would win.
Mrs. Hennessy, do you think if we all just kept posting every thought that came to mind as we sat at the computer, we would make the top ten blog spot?
-I feel obligated to say stuff about the stories so I haven't completely wasted everyone's time, so here it is:
I like that you knew all the time that it was the cheese stinking up the place in "The Invalid's Story" even though the characters didn't.
In case you're actually reading this, I was wondering...
Why on earth is "The Invalid's Story" titled that? Is it because the dead body wasn't really what they thought it was? But the story wasn't really all about the cheese, it was about the guy's imagination, so why would Mark Twain name it that?
Corinn, if you see this you must join the quest to use the word "obsequious" in a normal conversation. If you don't already know, it means "fawning". Frankly, if you can use the word "laboriously" I bet you can use this word too.
Next time theirs a post we should all post twenty times with book related posts and see if we can make the top ten. No one can fault us with doing extra homework
I'm not sure, Tyler, Kati also used the word "arduous".
I think this blog is on Pacific time because I'm quite sure that it is past 1:30.
Corinn, is it possible to use the phrase "extra homework" and have it have a positive connotation?
The two stories that we read were different from each other because one of them started with somebody dead and the other ends with someone dead. In The Interlopers Ulrich von Gradwitz and Georg Znaeym are both out to kill each other. They are trying to kill each other because the two families have a history of hatred. The reason that they are mad at each other this time is because Georg was caught potching on Ulrichs land. When the two men were out in the woods they came face to face with each other but neither one shot or spoke to the other. Before either one said anything the tree that they were standing under fell on top of them. While the men lay under the tree they began to talk to each other. After awhile of talking to each other and laying under the tree the two thought it would be very cool if they could become friends. Therefore the two agreed to be friends but their friendship was short-lived due to the fact that what they thought were men coming to help them was a pack of wolves instead. In the story The Invalids Story John B. Hacketts friend had died in Clevland Ohio and he got directions to take him to Wisconsin. What he did not know was that when he got on the train he had the wrong box so instead of a coffin he had a box of guns instead.Also when the box was boarded a piece of Limburger cheese was layed on top of it. Therefore the whole way to Wisconsin he had a horrible smell and tried many different ways to try to get rid of the smell. He got so desperate that he resorted to burning toxic things which not only hurt him but made the smell even worse than it already was.In the end of the story he found out that that train ride would be his last train ride and that he was going to die.So I guess that I liked The Interlopers better than The Invalids Story.
HAHA it finally worked
The two different death stories were the Invalids story which was a humors way of talking death and not sadly and the Interlopers which was a story of a serious feud and was much more depressing. These two ways differ magnanimously in how they take death. If I were to choose the one I liked the best it would be the invalid’s story because of its humorous way.
You have all exceeded my expectations for our first blogging experience!
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